MAHAGURU 58 TO ME you are MAHACURIMAKAN IN NAME OF ISLAM
ARE YOU TALKING TO ME ?ARE YOU TAKING TO ME ?ARE YOU TALKING TO ME?
MAHAGURU 58 TO ME are MAHACURIMAKAN IN NAME OF ISLAM
you said this the star news paper “I used to support Pakatan,” declared Zainol Abidin, 50 (aka Mahaguru58). “I felt we needed a change. I expected change. Now they have taken over five states and there is no change. So I am aligning myself to no one, not the Barisan, and I will whack Anwar (Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim) left, right and blue!This blogger has nothing better to do than to invite misfortunes upon himself. Your writings reveal the type of nonsense you have in your brain cells when it comes to God and religion. You have no rights to comment about another religion that is not yours. You are indeed acting like a spoiled child who can’t have his cake, and calling all cake-eaters bad names. Islam has never waged wars against non-believers of Islam but since you insult Islam and our prophets, do’t blame Muslims for our actions against you. I trust Allah Almighty to punish you in His own way very very soon. Remember, PRIDE COMES BEFORE A FALL. And you will fall badly.Then again that is a pretty normal thing for any type of extremist – Muslim or not.Not sure if anyone remembers but just a year or so ago, Mahaguru58 and Menj were talking about tattooing non-Muslims.Subsequently, when called to task on it, they went into a, “oh no, we were just joking” defense.After the reaction of this particular group of people over a variety of issues (including the BAR Councils conference not some time ago), it is not particularly surprising that they would jump aboard this bandwagon.Threats, shouting, tantrums – it isn’t a Muslim thing, it’s an extremist thing, plain and simple.Then again that is a pretty normal thing for any type of extremist – Muslim or not.Not sure if anyone remembers but just a year or so ago, Mahaguru58 and Menj were talking about tattooing non-Muslims.Subsequently, when called to task on it, they went into a, “oh no, we were just joking” defense.After the reaction of this particular group of people over a variety of issues (including the BAR Councils conference not some time ago), it is not particularly surprising that they would jump aboard this bandwagon.Threats, shouting, tantrums – it isn’t a Muslim thing, it’s an extremist thing, plain and simple.you are wost then surinder that RSS JOKER NEXT WHEN WANT SAY SOMETHING DONT EVER USE IN THE OF ISLAM The meaning of Islam is ‘peace’ so why you throw an oils to the fire? If people start to hate us, we must start to make a move to make they know that Allah teach us about love and peace, tolerance and harmony.That is no ending if we start fighting and hate each others.now you see your action bring disgrace to muslim you are disgrace islam Well, Mahaguru58 and the Muslim Bloggers Alliance (or whatever they’re calling themselves nowadays), have historically been renown for being willing to ‘dish it out’ and then reacting badly when the backlash comes in.Then again that is a pretty normal thing for any type of extremist – Muslim or not.Not sure if anyone remembers but just a year or so ago, Mahaguru58 and Menj were talking about tattooing non-Muslims.Subsequently, when called to task on it, they went into a, “oh no, we were just joking” defense.After the reaction of this particular group of people over a variety of issues (including the BAR Councils conference not some time ago), it is not particularly surprising that they would jump aboard this bandwagon.Threats, shouting, tantrums – it isn’t a Muslim thing, it’s an extremist thing, plain and simple.you are wost then surinder that RSS JOKER NEXT WHEN WANT SAY SOMETHING DONT EVER USE IN THE OF ISLAM
PALESTINE TREES BEAR A STRANGE FRUIT, BLOOD ON THE LEAVES AND BLOOD AT THE ROOT, PALESTINE BODIES SWINGING IN THE BREEZE, STRANGE FRUIT HANGING FROM THE OLIVE TREES. PASTORAL SCENE OF THE PALESTINE LAND, THE BULGING EYES AND A CRAMPED HAND , SCENT OF OLIVES, SWEET AND FRESH, THEN THE SUDDEN SMELL OF BURNING FLESH. HERE IS FRUIT FOR THE VULTURES TO PLUCK, FOR THE RAIN TO GATHER, FOR THE WIND TO SUCK, FOR THE SUN TO ROT, FOR THE TREES TO DROP, HERE IS A STRANGE AND BITTER PALESTINE CROP. READMORE https://muslimmalaysia786.wordpress.com/2012/03/26/palestine-trees-bear-a-strange-fruit-blood-on-the-leaves-and-blood-at-the-root/
THE BASIS OF AN EQUITABLE DEMOCRACY IS THAT THE VARIOUS COMMUNITIES — ETHNIC AND RELEGIOUS — GET REPRESENTATION IN THE POLITICAL DECISION MAKING PROCESS. IN A NON-EQUITABLE DEMOCRACY LIKE INDIA WHERE INTIMIDATION AND INFLUENCE PEDDLING ON THE BASIS OF RELIGIOUS AND ETHNIC ORIGIN OFTEN HAPPENS AND IS COMPOUNDED BY THE FACT THAT THERE ARE OVER A DOZEN MAJOR LINGUISTIC AND ETHNIC COMMUNITIES, A MULTIPLICITY OF CASTES AND OVER HALF A DOZEN RELEGIOUS COMMUNITIES, IT IS DIFFICULT TO BUILD AN EQUITABLE, ENLIGHTENED AND SECULAR DEMOCRACY.
why you said thisPolitical affiliations can also be ideals.but you have no idealism, you one running dog
Dan Rasulullah saw telah bersabda yang maksudnya “Barangsiapa yang beriman kepada Allah dan Hari Kemudian hendaklah ia menghormati jirannya.” Ini memberi pengertian orang yang tidak menghormati jirannya bukanlah orang yang beriman.
Semua ini menandakan betapa Islam menghendakkan kita menjadi orang yang baik dengan sesiapa juga. Adapun perkara yang tidak boleh Muslim dan Muslimah terbuat adalah mencampuri amalan ibadat agama lain, kerana perbuatan itu sangat dilarang oleh Islam. Umpamanya ada kematian dalam keluarga jiran tetangganya. Islam menggalakkan ia datang memberi takziah atas kehilangan keluarga jirannya, dan kalau ada sesuatu yang dari amalan ugama jirannya dikira baik, seperti membantu kewangan umpamanya sebagai tanda simpati, maka itu tidak salah baginya memberi sumbangan. Tetapi jika diminta melakukan sesuatu perbuatan yang mana perbuatan itu pada agama si jiran itu baik seperti menyembah mayat atau membakar bau-bauan, maka itu tidak dapat dibuatnya kerana ada larangan dari agama Islam. Biasanya perkara seperti ini dapat difahami oleh mereka yang berlainan agama.
Semoga kita sentiasa mendapat petunjuk dan hidayah dari Allah swt dalam memelihara hubungan baik di antara jiran tetangga di negara Singapura yang berbilang bangsa dan agama..
You were sleeping soundly, when you woke up the nextday,you found yourself alone in the darkness,suddenly you experienced what was being told earlier, the truth…
Too late for Abu Jahal to repent, the same goes to those who are all agaist Islam, an “institution” that promise to grant certificates in Heaven & Certificates in Hell & the only religion accepted by Allah.
Doesn’t matter, whether you believe it or not-some victims of Taman Bukit Mewah are now suffering in the “kubur”.These unbelievers of Islam are now facing the most difficult situation of their entire lifes.No more mercy for them from the “malaikat”.The picture of the hell were displayed to them .Whether you are a doctor,a wealthy man, a good man during your whole life, but if you against Allah, we the “malaikat” will do our jobs , whether you believe it or not, we will carry our duties, we will not going to listen to your plea just as you were not listening when you were being told about the truth in Islam.We simply don’t care now,you will face all the bad consequences while you are lying in our teritorries
Write whatever you think in the spirit of “freedom of speech” etc,time will come when all the unbelievers of Islam lay down speechless waiting to be ” pukul” by the “malaikat” for their so call “intelliegence & logicall argument” throughtout their blogging ideas.
This blogger has nothing better to do than to invite misfortunes upon himself. Your writings reveal the type of nonsense you have in your brain cells when it comes to God and religion. You have no rights to comment about another religion that is not yours. You are indeed acting like a spoiled child who can’t have his cake, and calling all cake-eaters bad names. Islam has never waged wars against non-believers of Islam but since you insult Islam and our prophets, do’t blame Muslims for our actions against you. I trust Allah Almighty to punish you in His own way very very soon. Remember, PRIDE COMES BEFORE A FALL. And you will fall badly.
The meaning of Islam is ‘peace’ so why you throw an oils to the fire? If people start to hate us, we must start to make a move to make they know that Allah teach us about love and peace, tolerance and harmony.
That is no ending if we start fighting and hate each others.
now you see your action bring disgrace to muslim you are disgrace islam
Well, Mahaguru58 and the Muslim Bloggers Alliance (or whatever they’re calling themselves nowadays), have historically been renown for being willing to ‘dish it out’ and then reacting badly when the backlash comes in.
Then again that is a pretty normal thing for any type of extremist – Muslim or not.
Not sure if anyone remembers but just a year or so ago, Mahaguru58 and Menj were talking about tattooing non-Muslims.
Subsequently, when called to task on it, they went into a, “oh no, we were just joking” defense.
After the reaction of this particular group of people over a variety of issues (including the BAR Councils conference not some time ago), it is not particularly surprising that they would jump aboard this bandwagon.
Threats, shouting, tantrums – it isn’t a Muslim thing, it’s an extremist thing, plain and simple.
you are wost then surinder that RSS JOKER NEXT WHEN WANT SAY SOMETHING DONT EVER USE IN THE OF ISLAM
The first inquiry into the demolition of the Babri mosque on December 6, 1992 was completed within seven days. On the morning of Sunday, December 13, Sharad Pawar, then defence minister, invited a group of friends and colleagues to the home of an associate MP. He watched a film – live footage of the whole episode, taken by some government agency, possibly intelligence. Those antique reels should still be somewhere in the archives. There was little that any inquiry committee could have added about the sequence of events on December 6 that ended with the fall of the mosque by the evening.
The causes of this historic event were also a matter of public record. L K Advani’s rath yatra was not a surreptitious journey. Indeed, extensive media coverage may have been part of the purpose, since he wanted to create mass momentum for his political project. Neither was there any secrecy when Congress laid the foundation stone of the temple to Lord Ram in the middle of the 1989 polls. Babri was a central theme, along with Bofors, of those dramatic elections. The 1989 BJP versions of Varun Gandhi were full-throated, not muted, in their slogans as parties sought votes with a rhetoric that has been subsequently banned: Mandir wahin banayenge! and Mussalman ke do sthaan, Pakistan ya kabristan! No one hid anything: We shall build a temple on that precise spot! Muslims have two options, either Pakistan or the graveyard!
Democracy is a volatile game played in the open. What was there left to inquire into?
All that an official inquiry could do was place a stamp of judicial impartiality on known facts. It did not seem strange, then, that Justice M S Liberhan, appointed on December 16, 1992, was asked to deliver his report in three months. If he had extended it to six months or even a year, it would have been reasonable. Why did he take 17 years?
The key actors were known and available. No sleuths needed here. Why did Liberhan take more than nine years to obtain V P Singh’s deposition, and nine-and-a-half for P V Narasimha Rao’s? Surely they were not evading his orders? Advani, Murli Manohar Joshi and Uma Bharti were ministers in a BJP-led government when they gave evidence. Former RSS chief K S Sudarshan appeared only on February 6, 2001. Rao could have said all he had to long before April 9, 2001, four years after he lost his job as prime minister.
Had the commission already served its first purpose by 2001? It had outlived Rao’s term in office and thereby, ensured that its findings could not be used to demand Rao’s resignation. Rao survived December 6, 1992 by the cynical expedient of buying out those he feared most, Muslims within the Congress. Some inside government were given promotions; most outside were inducted in a January 1993 reshuffle. Conscience purchased, life went on.
It would be interesting to know if the Liberhan Commission has disclosed the one mystery of December 6: what was Rao doing that entire day? Babri was not destroyed by a sudden, powerful, maverick explosion. It was brought down stone by stone, the process punctuated by the rousing cheers of kar sevaks.
So, what was Rao doing during those minutes and hours from morning till sunset? Sleeping. That is what his personal assistant said to the many agitated Congressmen and women who phoned to ask why the government was asleep. They were shocked to learn that this was, literally, the official explanation. Their agitation cooled when they realized that the party would have to pay a horrendous price if government was destabilized. Plus, of course, there were concrete benefits in silence.
There may not be a rational explanation for a 17-year inquiry, but there is a political explanation. Every government between 1992 and 2004 had a vested interest in delay. The minority governments of H D Deve Gowda and Inder Gujral could not have survived a day without support from the Rao-Sitaram Kesri Congress. (Mrs Sonia Gandhi was not party president then.) Neither Gowda nor Gujral would have wanted a report that indicted their benefactors.
The BJP-led coalition that ruled for six years had the guilty on its front row. Only Uma Bharti has been candid enough to say that she was delighted when the mosque fell (“I’m ready to own up to the demolition and will have no problem even if I’m hanged”). Justice Liberhan could have punched mortal holes into the BJP front row when it was in office. And so when he sought one extension after another, there was public silence and private relief.
Whether advertently or inadvertently, Justice Liberhan protected politicians on both sides of the great divide. There remains a curiosity question. Why did he not submit his report in 2004? Admittedly Dr Manmohan Singh was finance minister in the Rao government, but he had nothing to do with the politics of Babri. When delay becomes so comfortable, why bother?
Bilkis Bano, one of the faces of the horrors of Gujarat genocide, ultimately got justice.
The brave woman was six-months pregnant when she was gang-raped, saw her eight family members slaughtered and her own 3-1/2 year old child killed by a bloodthirsty mob in Narendra Modi’s Holy Land of Hindutva.
Six years later, a Mumbai Sessions court held 13 of the 20 accused in the case, guilty of rioting, murders and rapes, letting seven others including a doctor couple that fudged evidence, for lack of evidence.
Justice UD Salvi’s landmark judgment will go a long way in healing the wounds of the riot victims, who had lost all hopes from a Rogue State (Gujarat), where administration, police and sections of lawyers colluded to shield the accused.
For riot-scarred Bilquees Bano, it has been an excruciatingly long fight for justice. At least, 20 times she changed her residence but remained committed to her pledge to get justice in her own country.
The court decision has again strengthened the belief of Indians, especially minorities in this great Nation, its democracy, its judiciary and its age-old values. And reinforces out belief why Indian Muslims even after such major carnages, have
We must Salute the Indian judiciary. Public Prosecutor RK Shah did a great job in presenting the case. We can’t forget how the head of the team of government lawyers, Arvind Pandya, wasshamelessly caught confessing on camera in a sting operation that he was saving the killers.
Supreme Court had shifted the case from Gujarat, after reports of harassment of the victims and witnesses apart from attempts to tamper evidences and delays in the case proceedings. The CBI also conduced the investigation in a fair manner.
The NGOs, Teesta Setalwad for her rigorous testimony, social activists like Huma Naqvi and umpteen others who stood by Bilkees Bano, played a great role in this fight for justice through financial, legal and emotional support to her.
The quantum of judgment would be known next week. Now all of us can hope that victims of Naroda Patiya massacre, Best Bakery Case, Sardarpura killings and the murders in Gulbarg Society will also get justice.
It is a big judgment in the context that such verdicts go a long way towards sending the signal to the poor victims that despite all odds, there is a sytem in place in this country that can get you justice though the road may be hard and long.
Bilquis Bano’s son may grow up to the stories of atrocities in Gujarat but I am sure he will be proud of his country and his mother. Of thinking that his mother fought this case, hundreds of others with no kinship came along, and this country and its courts gave his family, Justice.
If ten years after Gujarat riots, the issue continues to be at the centre stage of Indian politics and the judicial process is moving forward, even if slowly, credit is due to Indian society.
One must admit that it is mostly the non-Muslims, the secular Hindus, Sikhs, Christians and Jains who have fought on behalf of Indian Muslims. Putting their lives in danger, they have fought for the minorities’ rights and their justice.
It is an incredible story, if someone ever wrote it. Activists who painstakingly fought for victims, journalists who risked lives to do ‘stings’ and nail culprits, lawyers who have in trying times and braving social stigma [even threats] sided with victims.
If Gujarat riots were India’s shame. The fight for justice is Independent India’s glory. A large section disapproves of human rights activists. But mostly this right-leaning segment of middle-class forgets that societies in other countries also act similarly.
In Pakistan, human rights activists who speak and fight for Hindus, Ahmadiyyas or Christian minorities are disliked by a large section, seen as ‘noise-makers’ and abused on Twitter and Facebook.
It is not an easy job to side with the victim, a person of other community, and take a stand. Particularly, when the might of state is against you. Frankly, majority of Muslim community had no idea how to fight this battle. On every front, it is mostly the non-Muslim leadership that has stood by Gujarati Muslims.
It was Harsh Mander, who resigned from Indian Administrative Services (IAS) in wake of the riots, openly saying that his colleagues didn’t do what was expected from them during the pogrom.
Till date, he has been fighting for relief and rehabilitation. Teesta Setalvad is a symbol of this amazing story. The communalists, the right-wing dislike her.
However, for poor Muslims she is a messiah. Yes, she spoke for the ‘other’. You have to be a victim to realise how it feels when someone speaks for you.
How can we forgot Mukul Sinha, whose Jan Sangharsh Manch (JSM), has painstakingly collected vital evidences, records by scanning thousands of pages of documents, so that the culprits are today feeling the heat.
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And Prashant Bhushan. At every forum, he has taken up the cause of sufferers. The senior lawyer-activist has been a defender of civil rights and his commitment towards secularism, is surely amazing.
There aren’t enough Muslim activists who can take the fight at this level [Of course,Shabnam Hashmi is there but who else?].
The ‘intellectual’ or common Muslim had little time to think of it or dare do it in Gujarat, let alone act for years in such a hostile atmosphere when section of bureaucracy, society and officials see activists as enemies of Gujarat.
All these are Hindus. How many can dare take on the system in such a way as RB Sreekumar did. The intelligence chief, he was an insider. Disgusted by what happened in Gujarat and driven by pure humanity and conviction, he has been at the forefront in the fight.
Since 2002, at ever forum he has openly said what others suspected but couldn’t have been established easily: about officers’ laxity, alleged complicity and the politicians’ role in letting the riots go on after Godhra train burning incident.
For many he is a maverick police officer. But IPS officer Sanjeev Bhatt has risked his entire career at stake. He named Narendra Modi repeatedly. Even Muslim officers were obsequious and enjoyed plum postings a few years after the riots, content with the fruits of power.
It takes extraordinary courage to speak up when you are in the ‘system’. Bhatt has no qualms. Many of these people are staunch Hindus and deeply religious. And yes, their religious beliefs give them the strength when they stand by Muslim Gujaratis.
Exemplary commitment towards service was shown by several officials in 2002. Who won’t be indebted to Rahul Sharma, the IPS officer, who ordered firing on the mob when rioters were on way to burn a madarsa where 300 children lived, in Bhavnagar.
Sharma later came up with information that showed politicians’ nexus with rioters. The government acted against him, gave him charge-sheet. Satish Verma faced departmental harassment.
FIRs were filed against Bhatt. He was arrested as well. I don’t know if any other country can have similar example of people in high offices taking such strong stand amidst the typhoon of hate and violence that had swept Gujarat then.
The figure of deaths in Gujarat was enormous. But it could have been even greater but for such brave men in uniform. The combined efforts have resulted in Supreme Court monitoring of cases, constituting the SIT, rapping government, all important steps.
Surely, it is wrong to squarely blame Gujarat or Gujaratis. Innumerable Gujarati Hindus are fighting this battle for the last decade. Their dream is a secular India, a secular Gujarat, for which they are all striving for.
Harsh Mander is a Sikh. Mallika Sarabhai belongs to a Jain family. Christian activists are also involved in this campaign to secure justice. Can we forget the contribution of Indian media that has shown its commitment towards secular India.
Artists also expressed their protest. Movies like Rahul Dholakia’sParzania that told the story of a Parsi family which lost its son as he had a Muslim-sounding name or Nandita Das’ Firaaq shows the agony they underwent in the aftermath of the massacre.
Ashish Khetan, whose landmark Operation Kalank had established the role of Babu Bajrangi as well as the alleged go-ahead given to Bajrang Dal-VHP leaders in 2002. This is just an example. Innumerable journalists, activists and writers have done every bit to ensure that the wheels of justice move.
So that the society doesn’t forget the horrors. When we talk of DG Vanzara, who is in jail for fake encounters, we see only one side of the picture. There are officers who didn’t budge despite immense pressure.
Officers who we must salute. V K Gupta, Manoj Shashidhar, Narasimha Komar, Vivek Srivastava, M D Antani, Upendra Singh and Keshav Kumar led from the front and ensured that violence was controlled in their areas.
Go anywhere in India, the respect Teesta Setalvad’s name commands, is unbelievable. People have seen her act, speak and passionately fight for Muslims.
Criticising perpetrators of riots is fine for outsiders. It’s very easy. But its not an ordinary task to speak for the victims when it is considered ‘a moral sin’, especially when you are part of the ‘system’ [bureaucracy] in the Gujarat.
Call it conscience, courage, honesty, humanity or sense of duty, these officers have done something rare. And there are many such officers who have defied the diktats and decided to act as per law.
Whether Gujarat is shining right now or not, whenever history of this period [200-2012] would be written in future, it will be due to these people that the next generations would see as heroes and they would not have to hang their heads in shame for the conduct of rioters.
Honest officers, the courageous activists, the ordinary Hindus, Sikhs, Christians, Jains, Parsis who fought to ensure justice for their Muslim brethren.
It is this reason that entire Gujarat can’t be condemned or defamed. There were no personal gains involved. All of them paid price and faced harassment.
Trolls & hate-filled anonymous cyber warriors con’t understand these sentiments. The fighters are not ‘pseudos’, ‘sickulars’ or ‘Congis’, but humans. No wonder we are a mature democracy.
Despite the occasional failures, we can redeem ourselves, bounce back and set new standards. There is no fun fighting for yourself. Everybody does it. But what we have seen in a decade is something extraordinary. It sends the message that humanity and justice ultimately prevail.
This is a story of many heroes and it has a lesson for every society. Our salute to all the heroes. [There are many more activists, lawyers and journalists who played their part in this fight for justice. Some names mentioned above are just to give an indication about the nature of this fight.]