Don’t play too much politic, PAS …. take care of flood victim and the welfare of rakyat !!! Otherwise you are gone how to convert from so called communal mindset to so called secular mindset ? read this article.a thought-provoking article. history is partly lies mixed with interesting anecdotes.the story of akbar is true. we wish to live in illusions and symbolic universes. but large scale conversions from hindus is a fact According to PAS secretary-general Mustafa Ali, the Kelantan state government’s proposal to amend the hudud enactment on Dec 29 does not go against the agreements in Pakatan Rakyat.
If Putrajaya came second to Hudud, what is Pakatan Rakyat Alliance to PAS?…a vehicle to strenghten their ambition…. to make the whole of Malaysia a Muslim nation….this ambition is well ingrained in their deceptive brains. Allah is just an excuse to create PAS robots to serve without questioning ….democracy PAS way PERKASA, ISMA, JAIS, JAKIM, PAS Youth and other aggressive and confrontational religious organizations, we’ve a glimpse of the worst side of Hudud like accusing others of trying to convert Muslims, seizing religious books, banning words only for Muslim use, biased child custody battle, after-life body snatching and provoking other religions by ridiculous accusations. With PAS ultras showing their betrayals, no Malaysian in their sane mind would prefer any form of Hudud, be it UMNO’s nor PAS’sapostasy is punishable by death according to the pedo. Mohammad . that’s the reason no human being ( by birth Muslim ) can dare leave islam in any Islamic country . either one is a muslim or a human being , one can’t be both at the same time .
It was argued by one of their designated spokesman that we should not be afraid of the punishment set out in hudud. He said that it is very difficult to convict using the conditions set and this was why hardly anyone was stoned to death. But the judge could convert to a lesser charge….
where then is the justice that the ulamas were talking about ?
we never knew what religion we belong to when we were born and we follow the same steps as our parents thought us. when we start seeing and hearing the present facts we get the difference between the religions and different caste system being followed in the society. then we try searching for answers and dig into the history which we have never seen. its all places of worships,books that support the religious facts we can see in this world. no one knows where we go after we die. a dead human has never contacted a alive human in this world to describe what he experiences after death. but looking outside this earth we know there is a vast never ending universe with mysterious galaxies around us. there is someone who is a architect who has created all this for us. we in the name of god talk about conversions and differentiate the religious terms. we deny when someone opposes the clauses in the religious book like we had experienced it in the past. we were created to help each other and lead a peaceful life. we are responsible for all this and we have to be united to get rid of all this evil elements which hamper people’s lives.today people are following religions not god it seems….. if they do so they never talk about religion, or urges to join Islam or Christian or any other religion because they belongs to….. every religion is gold, religion is to show us the sinless,peace full path, where human stand for human. but people change its meaning completely… conversion never help to become human, it is just myth if you are Christian and converted to Islam you will get heaven. good human will get heaven belongs to any religion…the problem is different. the problem is that there is no conversion in Hinduism. conversion is a trait of Abrahamic religions. they clearly have terms like kafir and infidel/pagan to denote believers of other faiths. Look like Pas is prepared to dump everything for hudud. Trustworthiness, conscience, sincerity, brotherhood, principle, civilised, soul etc are no more important than hudud. Since they have came to this stage, then there is no better reasons for DAP and PKR to continue co-operate or associated with Pas. Let them and Umno to be remembered and recorded as the parties that responsible to bring in or implement hudud in our country.most atrocities were perpetuated by Hindus in the name of caste. that has kept the country backward. current stories blaming British or Muslim may make us feel good but are unrealistic given the sorry state of our society before that.
When the famous Pakistani cricket player-turned-playboy Imran Khan married Jemima Goldsmith in 1995, she converted to Islam. She was brought up as a Jew. She was just one example. In the first decade of the 21st century, more than one lakh people converted to Islam in Great Britain alone. Add to this the figures of other European countries, and you will get an idea of how conversions are becoming very normal, especially among non-Muslims.
But let me ask the difficult question that most people dare not ask in India. How many Muslims from Muslim countries are converting from Islam to another faith? And even those who dare convert are forced to keep it to themselves or escape the country in order to avoid persecution and penalty. In many cases, citizens are awarded some of the harshest punishment for what is considered a human right in most non-Muslim countries of the world.
The problem in India is not that a few dozen Muslims have decided to convert to Hinduism, but the fact that, historically, we have told sweet lies to ourselves and pacified ourselves in order to forget the traumatizing experience of the first Islamic colonization and later the British colonization. Millions of Hindus have been forcibly converted, and the British have forced Indians to sit in third-class compartments while they themselves travelled first class. Winston Churchill thought that we Indians did not deserve to get the life-saving grain, even though he had the powers to redirect the supply to India. It caused the death of millions in the ensuing famine. We have forgotten all that. But they are still facts of India’s historical life.
When Salman Rushdie was in Denmark a few years ago, he was interviewed by a leftist writer, Carsten Jensen. To one of the questions asked about India, Rushdie told a beautiful story of modern-day India. He said that he had researched very well the life of the Mughal Emperor Akbar, and his conclusion was that the Indians have told fairy tales and made Bollywood films like Mughal-e-Azam about the life of Akbar. It is not true that Akbar’s wife remained a Hindu or Rajput. No, she converted and that can be proved, but Indians still want to believe that at least one Mughal emperor was wise, secular and interested in promoting the rights of all religious minorities.
No matter how much deeper we poke the ostrich’s nose into the sand, we cannot always avert the desert storm. So it is with some historical facts. We can tell some sweet lies that the Indian history is full of periods when all kinds of kings ruled softly and their subjects enjoyed most of the freedoms that we know of in the modern world. But it is a simple lie. Just as it is a lie that ostriches bury their heads in the sand. We have been told that and we keep telling that to others without thinking of how that poor bird would breathe.
What we should not do, of course, is blame the present-day Muslims for the evils of the past. Nor should we blame the present-day Hindus for the bad arithmetic of the caste system. A few Muslims converting to another faith is no big deal, especially when most of the Muslims of Southeast Asia are simply all converts. It is funny how they still use words like “Bhumiputra”, a Sanskrit word, to justify their demands for more rights in Malaysia.
By confronting the past, we should start making efforts to reconcile our history. The chance we are given at the present historical moment is to make the miracle of secular India work. An India where all are free to convert, marry and divorce. An India where the freedom of religion and conscience is a fundamental pillar whose existence is accepted by all.
But for Hanuman’s sake stop telling lies. Modern-day secularism is an unprecedented moment in our history. Let us cherish it. And let us be thankful that we do not have to live by the brutal standards of the previous centuries.