Let us get this out of the way. What Tasek Gelugor MP Shabudin Yahaya said amounts to endorsing paedophilia. Furthermore, he is a rape apologist as well.
When this MP says “girls who reached puberty as young as nine-years-old were physically and spiritually ready for marriage”, what he is really saying is that in his view, young girls as young as nine are ready for sex.
When this MP claims that older male perpetrators “fall in love” with their underage victims and should be allowed to marry them, what he is really saying is that older men who groom their victims and then rape them should be allowed the legal and societal endorsement of “marriage” to cover up their crimes.
When he says that “maybe the husband had raped her (his wife, prior to marriage), we (can’t) say that the husband will be a useless and evil person forever”, he is really saying that men who rape women should be forgiven for their crimes when they “atone” for them by marrying their victims.
He also squarely places the blame on the “wild lifestyle” of women and girls which absolves men from their crimes and reinforces the victim-blaming and shaming that constitutes the foundations of a rape culture that is based on a paternalistic agenda of men like Shabudin Yahaya.
If you ever need an example of a Muslim who gives Islam a bad name, it is someone like this Umno parliamentarian. I consider what he says of women and children as akin to an act that gives the religion and its adherents the reputation of unsavouriness and bolsters the idea that Islam is the motherlode of bad ideas as propagated by atheists like Sam Harris.
Amanah MP Siti Mariah Mahmud said, “I don’t blame him totally because the law allows it. I’m not saying he is right, but that is the mindset of Malaysians today, of Muslims today.”
First of all, this is not the mindset of “Malaysians” today. I can confidently say that the majority of Malaysians – Muslims, Christians, Buddhists, Hindus or however they self-identify themselves – believe that child marriage and rape are anathema to any kind of moral thinking. It is only certain Muslim men who control the discourse and control the levers of government and set policy, who think this way.
They think this way because for years they have been allowed to say and do the most morally reprehensible things and do this in the name of religion, while those of us who attempted to resist and point out such immoral behaviour were told not to interfere with Islam and threatened with sanctions from the state.
In an article about child abuse
, I highlighted what an activist from Sisters in Islam said – “Child marriage is actually exacerbating the abuse of the children by making it legal.” Shareena (Sheriff) also highlighted the fact that politicians and religious personalities make statements advocating child marriages, which in turn makes it conducive for those ‘who want to go down that road will feel that it’s perfectly all right to do so.’”
What does it say when religious men tell pre-teen girls to “cover up”, claim that they are ready for marriage (sex) at the age of nine and consider the marriage of a rape victim as “the power of God”? Whose is being seditious here – the person who questions such abhorrent behaviour in the name of religion or the person who uses religion to justify his…
rape is a crime and no matter what one says, the full course of justice needs to be served. So why not let the rapist face the full brunt of the law first and when his sentence is completed, nobody will care two hoots if the victim decides whether to marry the scum or not.
To allow even the hint of such suggestion is an insult to women. Allowing it sets the precedent that men don’t need ever to woo and pursue the woman of his dreams – just rape and that woman will be yours forever. Absurd, isn’t it?
And don’t bring religion into this absurdity. No religion will condone this “rape and marry” practice. Let’s see what he will say if a “haprak” rapes his daughter or niece and offer to marry that unfortunate girl after the incident.
Any woman (whatever her religion) has the right to give or withhold consent to sexual intercourse. Her guardian has no right, of course, to give consent to a man to have sexual intercourse with her!
Furthermore, a Muslim woman’s guardian’s consent alone is not sufficient for a man to marry her, a point which should carry more emphasis than it actually does. Additionally, the woman’s consent to the marriage too is required for it to be valid. Consent must be given by a woman of her own free will so as to be valid.
Is a rape victim to be “advised” or “persuaded” to marry the man who had defiled her? Who in his or her right mind would think that her consent, if given in such a situation, has been freely given and is valid?
A woman who marries her attacker can get divorced by him the next day, and there will be enough all-knowing types who will advise her that it is his right to do so. This MP with a twisted mind has not addressed the real issue of getting men to respect women.
Shabudin, you’re totally devoid of any feeling for the rape victim. What you say is abhorrent and disgusting. There is no justification for rape under any circumstances.
Can one imagine the poor rape victim having to marry the monster who violated her and continue to be raped in a forced marriage? Please don’t defend yourself by saying it is all okay that the marriage requires the permission of the Syariah Court.
This sort if outrageous thinking has no place in any society and someone who thinks this way should not be allowed to hold any leadership position.
This is the kind of thinking that allows other perverts to exist. This so-called ‘lawmaker’ as he is described, should immediately be told to resign and be banned from public office of any sort.
Grauco: What Shabudin said is true and I agree with him. All the comments here are from people who are narrow minded and don’t respect other people’s religion.
Rape as defined in the West includes underage children having intercourse willingly. In some Western countries, nine out of 10 of those under the age of 18 are no longer virgins. So, why are they not jailed for rape? If you lose your virginity before the age of 18, it either you are raped or you rape someone. Does that make sense to you?
Don’t talk about syariah law if you don’t know about it. Respect other people’s religion as we respect yours.
Tony Soprano: Grauco, you don’t understand Western law. First of all, the age of consent in Western European countries is between 14 and 16. The American age of consent is 16 to 18, depending on the state.
It is not rape if a boy 17 or younger has consensual sex with a girl of 16 or older. It’s only statutory rape if the male is an adult (18 or over) and the girl is under 18.
Vijay47: Shabudin’s revelations on sexuality and marital bliss is enlightening to say the least and this is the first time I have heard that the rape of a child followed by the rapist marrying her somehow reforms him and makes him a better person.
Another gem from this inspired politician is that a nine-year-old child who has attained puberty is physically and spiritually ready for marriage. Shabudin’s argument seems to be that a child whose body has developed into that of an 18-year-old woman is ready to be a wife.
What if the rapist, alas, does not reform as Shabudin expects him to and instead rapes another child-woman or even three more? No problem, since he has kindly given the comfort of matrimony to four children? And what if, pardon my crude analogy, if the child is raped by, say, five men?
Just one final question, Shabudin. Would your views be just as generous if the rape victim were your daughter?
Inevitably, we will soon see the enlightened side rising to the defence of Shabudin. First, that Malaysiakini be shut down for publishing such lurid details and all commentators on this topic be charged for insulting Islam, including a former syariah court judge.
Next, would be the demand that people who do not understand the teachings of the religion should keep their ignorant opinions to themselves. These people are willing tools of neo-imperialists and their comments clearly reflect their Western-Christian liberalisation and pro-LGBT (lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender) inclinations.
Next, far from being a villain, Shabudin was only expressing his concern for rape victims and was merely suggesting a wise solution to this widespread social scourge.
If he had delved with great relish into the physical attributes of nine- and 18-year-old bodies to the salivating arousal of his Umno and PAS parliamentary colleagues, it was only to emphasise the fact that children could yet be women and rape need not always be rape.
Imagine a nine-year-old girl, still so innocent and a virgin, is raped and forced to marry the rapist? What kind of a father would allow this to happen?
By agreeing to that, Shabudin is encouraging rapes. I thought the Parliament was debating on the Sexual Offences Against Children Bill, and here you are suggesting that the kids can marry their rapists.
save your victims, O rapists. Marry them, O merry men of honour, in order to return them their dignity. For otherwise they would be shelved and thus doomed.
better be wed now to thy sexual offenders than to remain single and dignified. And after having done so, do not forget to kiss the feet of the brilliant Shabudin, the Problem Solver of Violated Desperate Women.‘Rape and marry’ choice – a solution for whose social problem?Shabudin Yahaya and our rape cultur
On Feb. 23, 2016, an Indian woman, within hours of giving birth by C-section, was raped in a hospital
near New Delhi. Some in India took consolation in the fact that at least she was not, like Nirbhaya—the 23-year-old female physiotherapy intern—beaten up after being raped.
A few days later, on March 8, 2016, on Women’s Day, a 15-year-old girl was raped and set on fire.
For those who don’t remember, in December 2012, Nirbhaya
was beaten with iron rods, gang-raped, and tortured in a private bus while she was travelling with her boyfriend. As a result of an international outrage over her assault and subsequent death, new laws and new fast-track courts were promised. More women are now willing to report rape cases. But even two years after Nirbhaya, her father claims that the promises of reform were unmet, and that justice in India has failed his daughter and women like her.
Indeed, Amnesty International reports that authorities have not effectively implemented new laws on crimes against women. The majority of rape cases still go unreported. In Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s India, the problem, instead of abating, has become worse:
2011 24,206 (reported rapes per year in India)
In India a women is reportedly raped every 15 minutes. Multiply that by 24×7, 365 days a year. And keep in mind the majority of rape cases still go unreported. The statistics on crime against women is even worse: Every 2 minutes, a women in India is a victim of a crime. This ongoing issue with violence against women raises the real and serious question of whether India is truly ready for a seat on the global table.
One explanation for the ongoing rape problem is the skewed sex ratio. Like China, India has a massive imbalance in its sex ratio. According to the Indian census, the sex ratio in the 6 and below age group has risen from 102.4 males per 100 females in 1961 (the Liberal Nehru days) to 108.9 in 2011 (the Fiery Hindutva Ideology days). In Gujarat, Indian PM Modi’s home state, the sex ratio is 112 to 100.
Economists and sociologists call this the Bare Branches phenomenon, a result of female feticide over a very long period of time. It is an issue that India shares with its massive neighbor, China, where boy babies are also culturally preferred over girls. Independent studies out of MIT and Columbia University have postulated that these Bare Branches—males with a snowball’s chance in hell of finding a female companion—threaten domestic stability and international security.
And yet, the surplus of males in China doesn’t appear to be leading to a rape crisis there. In fact, research has found that while China has seen an uptick in general violence due to the Bare Branches, they actually tend to behave gently around women. No such correlation was found in India.
Why this shocking disparity?
A simple answer points to the Indian caste system. There is an expression in India that “bringing up a daughter is like watering a neighbor’s plant.” India places women lower than men. There is a total and complete disrespect for women in Indian religious scriptures. The Mahabharata, Book 13 Section 40 (13.40), states, “There is no creature more sinful, than woman. She is poison, she is snake.” Other texts say that “Women are living lies.”
Now, to begin with, Bare Branches are predisposed to violence—but in the absence of any respect for women, this violence comes without remorse and becomes unhinged. This is precisely what we are seeing today. The caste system explains the violence against women in India, but to understand the inordinately high number of rapes in India, one needs to dig deeper for answers